Politics and family
I admit to more or less blowing my top a couple days ago after seeing the umpteenth post on my Facebook feed about the current US election. Personally I wouldn’t have a problem with the posts if there was anything valid in them. But they almost always tend to be stuff spouted from some right-wing news group and almost always full of inaccuracies. What tipped me over the edge were the ones about the woman from the beauty pageant saying how much of a gentleman Trump was at the time. And the one where it listed several good things Trump has done, Apparently this makes Trump a good guy. Sigh. It’s interesting that I don’t see those from the opposite view posting such vitriolic material.
I went into a mad fury, replying to the ones that most incensed me. In hindsight, it was truly a waste of time. The ones posting are almost always family members. It’s been said to me that I just don’t understand what’s really happening back home because I am not there. Because, you know, we live in a backwater here in Australia. I’ve been told that I don’t have respect for the military and veterans in the past just because I don’t believe that they should be elevated above everyone else just because they are veterans. I don’t get this deifying veterans business that seems to happen so much back home. I don’t disrespect them but they aren’t the only ones who do good things for the country. It’s baffling.
The reality after much back and forth on a number of posts is that it seems the message I come away with on reading or viewing something is obviously totally different than what certain others in my family see. The most telling example is I can read a Snopes article debunking something and see all the sources attributed and another person will just see that one source mentioned that isn’t going to prove anything and claim that Snopes isn’t to be trusted even though this particular information may be presented more as background than the fact check.  In any case, it seems that most people already have a very firm opinion and it isn’t likely to be changed by anyone sharing yet another “proof”.
For years, I avoided engaging in discussion about politics with many family members because it was obvious no good would come of it. But then I was criticised for avoiding this and so sometimes did engage. Sadly, the time has come to return to that rule because it’s been proved again and again that no good comes from this sort of discussion. We are all just too entrenched in our views and it feels as though nothing I can attempt to convey will ever get through and nothing presented to me is valid enough to ever change my view.
On a related note, I happened to see an NPR article that went through various issues in this election and the views of four candidates (including the Libertarian and Greens candidate). To me the only real choices are the major parties since there’s no way of voting for a minor party without having no say on the final outcomes. This is where I find the Australia preference system works far better because a minor candidate can be chosen by listing which candidates to choose if the first doesn’t win. Anyway, it’s funny because I haven’t seen too much posted about most of these issues in recent months so I kind of forgot about them. Not surprisingly, my views were fairly close to those of Clinton, so I think I can feel fairly assured that I am choosing correctly for myself when I vote.


3 Comments
eValerie
I don’t think you are uninformed about the U.S. election just because you live in Australia! Everything about the election has been splatted across world media to the point that I just want to apologize to the people in other countries who have had to wade through months on end of endless postings about the U.S. election.
I agree with you that it doesn’t feel right to me, either, to elevate veterans on a pedestal above everybody else. I mean, on the one hand, they laid their lives on the line and were ready to make the ultimate sacrifice for our country, and I can certainly see why that is worthy of elevating. But, on the other hand, my strongest instincts say that if nobody was willing to go to war, then we wouldn’t have wars anymore, and so by being in the armed services these people have perpetuated the existence war. Though on the third hand, if everybody in all of the countries except one did what feels right to me and refused to join the armed services, then the one remaining armed country would be able to trample over all of the other countries, and that surely would be awful. So I don’t know. But it just doesn’t feel right to me to elevate veterans.
Unbelievably, the far right has had a campaign going to discredit Snopes. They claim that Snopes is biased. :-P
My eldest kid recently sent me a video that takes a serious look at the views of third party candidates. It is well worth watching, in my opinion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU
Purple Lorikeet
Unfortunately I can’t watch the video in my country…sigh. I suspect it could be available on some other video sharing website so might look into that later on. Here, my views most closely align with the Greens but I must admit I didn’t look so closely at the Greens candidate’s information in the NPR piece so I don’t know if it would be the same there. I just wish there was a meaningful way to vote a third party candidate there. I know that my cousin’s husband is voting third party as a protest vote…not sure about my cousin but I know her views are probably similar to him.
Purple Lorikeet
I should probably add more information to my family’s opinion as to why I don’t see things like they do. There seems to be another perception that news is filtered here so I don’t get the full picture. Of course it’s more the opposite because the news is far more objective here, even on the commercial channels. I think my family just doesn’t get that I see things quite differently to them and I pretty have since soon after I became an adult and started looking at issues more objectively. After all, I voted for Clinton in 1992 and 1996…